20.0-kg gold bar at 25.0C is placed in large, insulated 0.800-kg glass container at 15.0C and 2.00 kg of water

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20.0-kg gold bar at 25.0C is placed in large, insulated 0.800-kg glass container at 15.0C and 2.00 kg of water 25.0C. Calculated and final equilibrium temperature.
The book have an answer of 26.0C
PLEASE HELP ME I HAVE DONE THIS PROBLEM THREE TIME AND STILL DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS ANSWER CAME ABOUT, PLEASE SHOW ME THANK YOU

  1. Gunship
    on February 8th, 2012

    You have to know the heat capacity of gold. I just looked it up and the heat capacity of gold is .1291 J/g-K So for a 20 kg bar we have 20000gm of gold * .1291 = 2582 J/K We need to find the same information for glass .8Kg and the water 2kg so again looking it up on the internet I get

    Water (liquid) 4.1813 J/g-K and Glass .84 J/g-K

    multiplying the mass of each item by its heat capacity I get

    Water 8362 J/K and Glass 672 J/K

    Now we know that the Gold is 25C, the Glass is 15C and Water is 25C so we need to solve the following equation to find the equilibrium temperature which MUST be between 25 and 15C ( so 26C is not a possible answer)

    2582( 25-T) + 8362(25-T) + 672(15-T) = 0

    Solving for T, I get an equilibrium temperature of 24.42C

  2. Gideeup
    on February 8th, 2012

    My guess is the answer given in the book is a typo. In order for the objects to equilibrate at 26C, at least one of them would have to be warmer than that to start, or you would have to have an external heat source.

    My best advice is to go with the answer you came up with. Trust yourself. If you’re wrong, you’ll learn something when your teacher corrects it.

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20.0-kg gold bar at 25.0C is placed in large, insulated 0.800-kg glass container at 15.0C and 2.00 kg of water

REST OF THE PROBLEM…
20.0-kg gold bar at 25.0C is placed in large, insulated 0.800-kg glass container at 15.0C and 2.00 kg of water 25.0C. Calculated and final equilibrium temperature.
The book have an answer of 26.0C
PLEASE HELP ME I HAVE DONE THIS PROBLEM THREE TIME AND STILL DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS ANSWER CAME ABOUT, PLEASE SHOW ME THANK YOU

  1. FantasyFootball
    on February 8th, 2012

    Since gold’s specific heat (0.1291) is much less than water’s (4.1813), we can expect that the final temperature is closer to 15.0 C than to 25.0 C.
    20(0.1291)(25-T) = 2.0(4.1813)(T-15)
    Solve for T,
    T = 17.4 C
    ———–
    The book’s answer of 26.0 C must be wrong. Or you picked a different problem.

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20.0-kg gold bar at 25.0C is placed in large, insulated 0.800-kg glass container at 15.0C and 2.00 kg of water

REST OF THE PROBLEM…
20.0-kg gold bar at 25.0C is placed in large, insulated 0.800-kg glass container at 15.0C and 2.00 kg of water 25.0C. Calculated and final equilibrium temperature.
The book have an answer of 26.0C
PLEASE HELP ME I HAVE DONE THIS PROBLEM THREE TIME AND STILL DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS ANSWER CAME ABOUT, PLEASE SHOW ME THANK YOU

  1. PoPCorn
    on February 8th, 2012

    No way it’s 26.0C. The book is wrong.

    The final answer will be around 24.8C – 24.9C. I would be willing to put down $10 that says it’s in that range.

    Edit:
    Qgained by glass = Qlost by water + Qlost by gold

    Q = mc(DeltaT)

    800g(0.84 J/(g.C)(Teq – 15C) = 2,000g(4.184J/g.C)(25C – Teq) + 20,000g(0.129J/g.C)(25C – Teq)

    672J/C(Teq) – 10,080J = 209,200J – 8368J/C(Teq) + 64,500J – 2580(Teq)

    11,620J/C(Teq) = 283,780J

    Teq = (283,780J / 11,620J)/C

    >>>((( Teq = 24.42C )))<<<

    I lost $10.

  2. Orchid
    on February 8th, 2012

    You do not have the specific heat density of the gold…. it is normally in joules*kg/kelvin or similar format. It should be in your index or question summary.

  3. oddperson
    on February 8th, 2012

    Live in the real world. Who puts 20 kg of gold into a container and then worries about the temperature?????!!!!!

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